You, the Guilty One

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Very thought provoking..Thanks for sharing :)
I bet many people will recognise themselves in your post.
How very sad. Yet how very inspiring to those who have had to walk in those shoes. Makes me appreciate my family even more, Patricia.
I hope so. I actually wrote it with some people here on VOX in mind and a few other friends...Thank for your perspective, Emjay.
Thank you for visiting. And I see you had a wonderful holiday. I'm glad. : )
Oh, indeed. Embrace them and appreciate them. Happy families are a blessing.
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This is a great post. I bet there are a lot of people that have needed to hear/read something like this. Thanks. I admit that I'm one of those that stopped talking to a parent
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Thank you Patricia!!! I am one of these, and I made it!!! I am happy, full of love, joy, and compassion!!! I got the help, I saw the therapist, and I found out, I was O.K. It wasn't me, it's just what I had always been told and brought up in.For the past 4 years, I have came a long way- I actually am happy with me!!! I have a wonderful job, have many new friends, have regained my self esteem, and am full of life and love for the first time in years!!!
Thank you for this wonderful post!!!
I had no idea, Stephel. How a parent can reject a child is something I simply can't fathom, especially one who is as sweet as you.
I knew you had had some struggles Tammie, and I am so sorry you went through them. But to be able to say, "I actually am happy with me!!! " is a wonderful blessing and one that you have earned and deserve.
Aw, thanks. Yeah, I guess there was definitely rejection, but another main issue was not being able to trust said parent. Still working on getting over everything, lol
Well...I am going to assume this is not another April Fool's joke. ; ) (Just went over to your blog, you rascal ) I'm sorry that your parent was so capricous. At the end of the day, it is too easy to become a parent and some just do not have what it takes to be good ones. Unfortunately, that does not stop us from loving them and wishing they'd taken care of us as we needed. It does take a while to get past childhood issues, so don't be too hard on yourself, take your time and most importantly,learn from your sad experiences and utilise them to make a better life. I'm wishing you good things.
As always, insightful and inspiring. Thank you Patricia.
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I love your new banner, Patricia. It's so vibrant!
Thanks Patricia, I am Blessed! And I am happy with, me!
This was really tough for me to read.
What a powerful post. I enjoyed reading it but felt blessedly detached. My one brother died just a few years after my mother, and the other one simply disappeared. It was the oddest thing. He'd lived his life with one purpose--to terrorize the rest of us. Then his village was the first to burn in the big fires in California four years ago. We had every branch of the Red Cross looking for him for three weeks before we found him, and we were sick with worry, certain he'd been on of the ones who perished. He gave us the address and phone number of the friends who had taken them in when they were evacuated, but both turned out to be false. That was the last any of us have heard from him. The fascination of people, especially family, never ends.

It must be so hard to live like that. They do say that no one can screw you up like your parents. I was lucky in the two that I got but I know those who haven't been and your post is spot on.

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You're a remarkable lady, you know that? I am lucky enough to have a family that love me that I can bicker and quarrel with and complain about without feeling that they're out to sabotage me. But I know of people who are not that lucky and are mired in guilt caused by being a wonderful person in a barrel-full of snakes. I hope those people read posts like this and understand what that guilt really is: goodness.
I love the raw truth of it all. It has left a sweet yet bitter after-taste in my mouth. The same way life has left it's scars on my heart, I imagine. For most people, including myself, that we are all extremists. We can either extremely hate or extremely love. Unfortunate, yet common, that the same would apply with our own family. (i.e "love-hate" relationship)

Thank you for sharing such poignant thoughts.

~Mercy~
you've gotten into my head again! - this is so on the button in regards to my family, Patricia - thanks for this
This, this is wonderful. I am crying here. My family is loud and argumentative, and I've always been more moderated. I'd be called overly sensitive or ridiculous, and it's always my problem that I'm offended or disturbed- not the fault of the one who said harsh things.

Not that I have a bad family, I'm just guilty of not having inherited the brash temperament, zealousness and competitiveness. It's not like that's a BAD thing.
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What a brilliant and inspiring post! Thanks once again. I've been in this situation only somewhat, but it's so easy to identify with.

This was really tough for me to read.

May I ask why?

I wonder what would make someone want to disappear like that.

The fascination of people, especially family, never ends.

That's certainly the truth to my mind.

Thanks, Renee! I love the way the warm colours look against the grey background.
Thank you for stopping by.The photos of the children were beautiful, by the way. You're one talented artist, for sure. : )

I was lucky in the two that I got but I know those who haven't been and your post is spot on.

After reading your blog, I might know who you mean. He's lucky he has you. That's not a platitude.

But I know of people who are not that lucky and are mired in guilt caused by being a wonderful person in a barrel-full of snakes. I hope those people read posts like this.

Why aren't there more like it, is what I'm wondering? Even the advice columnists here in the US, at least, will sometimes encourage people to "be tolerant of family, if they can." As though it's the fault of the abused if they can't handle it. When I was teaching, if I'd given out that advice to pupils who came to me with horror stories, instead of reporting it to the child welfare authorities, some of them would be dead. (Sigh) What a sad world it is, sometimes.

For most people, including myself, that we are all extremists. We can either extremely hate or extremely love. Unfortunate, yet common, that the same would apply with our own family.

I'm not sure I quite follow this sentiment, but it sounds intriguing. Thank you for your comments, Mercy. They're appreciated.

Wonderful. While I did not write it specifically for you, you certainly did cross my mind and I'm glad it had a positive effect on you.

Not that I have a bad family, I'm just guilty of not having inherited the brash temperament, zealousness and competitiveness

I've been reading your comments and your posts at both blog sites for a while now and frankly, if I had choice between being the rest of your family or you, I'd pick you. Your sensitivity and ability to see things from everyone's perspective, as well as still making a strong statement about who you are without causing offence, is a gift. Savour it, don't regret it.

I'm glad you enjoyed the post. I wondered whether those who don't have families like this one, would identify or not. So, thanks.
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Although this post does not apply to me.. I have been blessed with a wonderful family that is full of unconditional love.. I have this woman in my life I have adopted as a 2nd mom. She is a wonderful family friend. She has a "luminous soul and a heart full of compassion" She is a wonderful person that my family can not get enough of. But her family.. they are just horrible to her. They tell her what a bad person she is and how she does a horrible job raising her kids. They constantly do things to her to sabotage their relationship with her. Afterwards, she calls me, crying and tells me about it.. and I just cry with her.. she says she is done with them and is never going to speak to them again. They reach out to her and she feels obligated. I am forwarding this blog to her as she will totally relate to it. Maybe then she will see in herself what me and my family see in her.

Charms, believe me when I tell you she is lucky, lucky, lucky to have a friend like YOU. You might not think you're helping her much but you and your family definitelyare. Thank you for leaving this comment.
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Life suckers, I call them. The family I choose means so much more than the one I was given. Friends, my true family.

Life suckers

Terrific term. and I agree with your assessment of friends one hundred percent. Thanks for visiting. It's appreciated. : )

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Such a beautifully written post! You speak the truth. I know many "guilty" people and sometimes I consider myself one of them, especially in times when my family and relatives can't understand what I am doing in my life and try to diminish the importance of my actions.

It's the fear of the unknown, whose door the "guilty" ones open and change their lives, that make our families to treat us this way. During high school and college, I have met many talented young men and women, full with passion for life, who were abused mentally or physically by their families and relatives. Some of them ended totally numb and succumbed to their injuries. Others moved on, but the hole in their hearts is still there; they have learned to live with it.

Approval from those who matter seems to be one of the most important factors of our actions, but sometimes self-approval is more than enough. We owe it to us to love who we are! We owe it to ourselves to take charge of our lives and move on. I know it's hard but we have to...So let's all be guilty; at least we know we have a heart.

It's the fear of the unknown, whose door the "guilty" ones open and change their lives.....Approval from those who matter seems to be one of the most important factors of our actions, but sometimes self-approval is more than enough. We owe it to us to love who we are! We owe it to ourselves to take charge of our lives and move on. I know it's hard but we have to...So let's all be guilty; at least we know we have a heart

llia, this is just really and truly wonderful. Thank you.

how'd you know?

i haven't talked to my father in almost 11 years.

Excellent post Patricia...thank you. While reading this there were many times I wondered how you got inside my head...lol. I can relate to alot of what you said here. I have spent the majority of my adult life nursing the hurts from a disfuctional childhood...but eventually you realize that life provides us with two choices...to let the past make us bitter...or let the past make us stronger. It took a long time...and I've still some work to do...but I have choose to become stronger. I can not control or change my past, but I can control how it affects my future.
I didn't know and I'm sorry, Kelly. I know it hurts. It's brave to say it out loud, too, I think. (Sigh) Life can be so heartbreaking, sometimes.....

life provides us with two choices...to let the past make us bitter...or let the past make us stronger. It took a long time...and I've still some work to do...but I have choose to become stronger. I can not control or change my past, but I can control how it affects my future.

I've never heard truer words and I commend you for adhering to them, though I know how hard it is. But, remember, you are a lovely person who deserves to be happy.

Thank you, it's nice of you to say so.

Because a lot of it really hits home for me.

The tough part is that explaining anything like this situation to most people, is an exercise in futility. They lack the frame of reference (or active listening skillset), to really understand what you are saying.

So, either you have experienced it yourself, or you are quite the listener and empathizer.

Kudos on that. Its a rare trait.

indeed, it can be heartbreaking. but i've learned a lot. i've learned how not to parent. i've learned to value my children. and i've learned that sad as it that they won't ever know their grandfather it's one of the best decisions i'll ever make for them.
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What you really deserved:

For Patricia.

(BTW, I'm not psychic. I knew you would appreciate this.)

I think most people are afraid to hear it, because many more than you can imagine have unresolved issues with their own parents. When you are honest about your situation, it makes them oddly envious, (for lack of a better word) that you've faced it and come to the conclusions you have to stay away and that you're brave enough to be honest about your feelings. Another reason (and I hope this isn't a politically-incorrect comparison), but to me,it's like the gay person who has the courage to 'come out' in to a society that still has very narrow norms. He's accepted, but he's still looked at differently. I.e- he' s not 'the bloke with blond hair,' when he's described, he's, 'the gay guy.' It's why so many prefer to keep the info to themselves. So, 'not talking to your parents' sets you apart, gives people too much to think about and makes them wonder who they are too deeply. It's about them, not you. Another factor is some ethnic groups, Jews, Greeks, Italians, to name three that I'm awre fo off the top of my head, still liken parents to demi-gods. When I was teaching, a teenage girl from India once fainted in gym class. It turns out she hadn't eaten in three days. Her father had commanded it, because she'd been disobedient. Even at school, where she was safe from his eyes, she followed his instructions to the letter. When the guidance counsellour tried to point out to her that this was child abuse, she vehemently defended her father and that the counsellour couldn't undestand because he was American and "Americans are not as close to their parents as other cultures are." Can you imagine? "Close."

As for being a 'listener and empathiser,' I'd love to take the credit, but if you read Ancora Impara's comment below yours on this post, you'll get more clues as to what promoted it, though I've never discussed it with him. He's the true 'listener and empathiser' today.

Are you sure you aren't psychic? Atticus Finch is one of my favourite literary heroes and you've worked out one of the reasons why. Thank you for this,more deeply than you know. I'll treasure it, not only for what you meant to give me by sending it, but because of the person you've shown me you are for knowing what it would mean to me.
I applaud you for this sentiment. You are so right and so brave.
Hey Patricia, as seems to be the pattern with your posts I waited a few days to say my piece. I grew up the oldest in a conservative household. Dad was the moderate but mom was a bit unbalanced and yelled a lot. She's loving enough, but she is naturally shy and just didn't know how to communicate effectively without shouting. Since moving out things have always been much nicer, but I resolved long ago that the only reason I would ever raise my voice at someone would be to get their attention.

Just after highschool I distanced myself from my family because I believed they had no idea about what was going on in the world or in my life. They still dont know or understand what went on during that period and they never will. I wish they could but that stuff never effected their lives and they freely admit it. I regret that I couldn't come to them, but I don't regret not telling them, their lives are probably better off not knowing some things...

I wish you could feel confortable to tell them. It sounds like they love you and you love them, but that they have failings like every one of us. ( I am notorious for getting excited and emotional during conversations with my youngest son and sometimes, even with the older ones. My husband, Mr. Serene, calms me down, but you can't imagine how hard it is to control myself. And I really try, Toe-Knee. It seems the more important someone is to me, the more excitable I get over their actions, which to me, sometimes seem so self-destructive. But, I digress.)

Anyway,you are older now and they should be willing to learn from you. People stagnate if they remain ignorant, even if they are "better off" not knowing. Unless your parents are entrenched in their ideology, they should be open to, and even proud of the fact that their son might know a bit more than they do on many issues. And even if they aren't, they must learn to respect your opinions and differences. My biological son is going thorugh this thing with his dad right now that he feels it's better off to lie to his dad than hear his critiques. I say he should stand up for himself and what he believes in.(And example is what he wants to major in at university. he wonlt tell his father what itis when he asks. ) My son chooses the path of least resistance, and lies or avoids his father, who then calls me or sends me emails complaining about it,accusing me of 'stealing,' or warping his son with my 'American' ideas.(A charming situation which is one of the reasons I get so frustrated and excitable). Because the more my son does this, the wider the gap grows between him and his father. My son thinks he's avioding pain and troble, but he never talks to his father in any real way. After all, who wants to spend time with someone you have to lie to or pretend with, all the time, just to keep the peace? Isn't it better to show your hand and let them learn to respect you for who you are? They'll either respect you or not. But if they choose 'not,' your relationship is no worse ff than it is if it's not honest. And think of what you gain if they choose to respect you, instead. IMHO.

Oh I know where you're coming from. And I can relate to your son. I've since moved past those particular trials and tribulations of my life, and I do have good conversations with my parents, especially since they've come through their own sort-of right of passage as well.

As for your son and his father, I can relate in that My Grandmother is a very judgemental individual and despite myself I really can't stand being around her. She bothers me in irrational ways in-fact so I actively avoid her rather than try to work out the differences. Perhaps your son feels the same way? My grandmother opposes so many of the ideals and values I've grown to hold while I haven't sought any common ground with her.

I speculate that both you and your first husband are both very passionate individuals. And I imagine your son is the same way. So that's going to work against everyone because any discussions are just going to be piling wood as the flames rise higher. The trick is of course to keep the fire in the hearth and keep it from spreading onto the carpet. There's got to be some common ground somewhere your sons father and he can meet on, I'm sure you know something they agree on, or that one is interested in that the other has experienced...

Maybe you could convince your son to blog and let your ex quietly read it...

I actively avoid her rather than try to work out the differences. Perhaps your son feels the same way?

I'm very much afraid this might be the case.

I speculate that both you and your first husband are both very passionate individuals. And I imagine your son is the same way. So that's going to work against everyone

Brilliant guesswork, here, T.

any discussions are just going to be piling wood as the flames rise higher.

Amen.

The trick is of course to keep the fire in the hearth and keep it from spreading onto the carpet.

Amen again. Fire marshall had the department dig a trench around our place and CarpetsRUs stayed in business just from our contributions alone.

I'm sure you know something they agree on

(Sigh) they agree on disagreeing.....

And the blog is a wonderful idea, but my son is a musician and expresses himself through that medium. I think that's why I find all his pieces so evocative.....

Thanks for the thought-out comment. T. My VOX buddies are on a roll today with their kindness....

I think I can understand where you are coming from.

But too frequently, I meet people who are super close to their parents, and when I talk about my experiences ... they just dont get how it feels. In my life, I have only met 2 people who could just listen to it and not try to "fix it" with their worldview reasoning.

Overriding principle that I just want people of well adjusted families to understand:

"Anyone can be a father or a mother. But not everyone can be a Dad or a Mom."

Hehe, I left that joking on my blog ;)
Thanks for your positive thoughts. They're always appreciated =)

"Anyone can be a father or a mother. But not everyone can be a Dad or a Mom."

You are right. And you deserved much better, J. You truly did. But keep in mind the last paragraph of this post,yes? : )

Your friend,

Patricia

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That is one of my mottos, seen first hand how people abandon their children.

This piece sounds like my sister and my wife to varying degrees. They both always sought approval of their mothers and sadly, never found it. My sister went to therapy for years and still does. My wife probably never will.

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Oh, I was also going to add that it's amazing what oxytocin, or lack of it will do for you or to you.

Thank you for stopping by and for your comments.

Yes, a sad,but old story. Therapy can help, but even more important is the support of understanding friends, spouses and other family members, if any.

As for the oxytocin, can you elaborate? I know it helps form a bond between parent and child. Are some mothers lacking in it? That would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

Patricia,I really liked your blog. I am the one in our family that has caused embarrasment,many things I have trouble explaining,my brother went into the Air Force in 82 and came back for 2 funerals,I called him because when I was married he did come home to go to football games with me,but I asked him a few months ago is it me why you don't come home anymore and he told me no,it was because of our mother,I truly believe he was sparing my feelings.I have done tremendous damage to my whole family,but they still love me and don't bring it up constantly,and actually some of the damage I did to our familys reputation has helped our family by geting us out of a small town where people live to scatter rumours and lies.In 1979 our whole family moved out of the small town and the family credits me for getting us out of there even if it was because of me doing things that would have made it very uncomfortable to stay.Everybody prospered greatly after moving to the city and my dad was famous in radio and the rumour mill in the small town about us turned to admiration.Im in no way saying I did good in any sense of the word,but I just wanted to bring into your blog how a small town can condense the smallest thing into a giagantic mess after the rumour mill and small minded people start talking and spreading it all over town. Thanks for that, Craig
Yes, the oxytocin is a bonding agent that they have found lacking in some people. If there is a low level, the degree of bonding is less. There are some great science articles on it, but a good basic one is HERE.
That's a very interesting perspective, Craig and another aspect for us all to think about. Thank you for this comment.

I just had a look at the article. So, some would say that whether one mother can nurture or not has only to do with peptide levels. I agree that chemical balance is definitely a factor, but I also think there might be some environmental factors. How the mother was mothered herself would have some effect, too.

Yes, agreed on the environment. Yet with the big decline in breastfeeding today, it seems that there may be a decrease in flow of these important chemicals during the crucial bond formation stages. It may also be a factor in the recent statistics behind 1 in 43 kids being neglected as well. I hate to draw such whopping correlations, but there may be something like this behind the facts, that people are not bonding as deeply with their children today because of this chemical imbalance.
This is intriguing, yet at the same time frightening to think that a child's whole life rests on the balance of whether or not the proper chemicals are flowing through their mothers. I wonder if there is any correlating data on this. There was a whole generation of women in the Unted States (mothers of baby boomers) who were told that bottle milk was better for their children than breast milk. Does that account for the large number of women may age I know who have a poor bond with their mothers, or was it simply that many mothers of baby boomers were told they had to stay home and have children and that they were 'unfeminine' if they didn't? This would lead to resentment of their children, I would think especiallyof their daughters, who had more opportunities than they did as women generationally.
Well, if you look back over history and see that during the war, when women began going to work in the factories to support the war effort, there was an increase in kids being left home with relatives or sitters. This was also about the time that bottle feeding and formula began it's rise. Just wondering if there is any data from that time until now that would show this correlation. I will see if I can come up with any research numbers on whether this is a persistant or growing problem.
It's downright intriguing is what it is. The theory would also probably cause an uprising. I hope you do find out some more on this. What a thought.
It's one of the strange qualities of my brain is that I read through many articles and retain that information. When new stuff is added, it begins to coagulate and coalesce with exisiting data to formulate these kinds of ideas, which then bear further research.
I did find some nice articles that explained the basics really well, like THIS one. There was one article I read that explained in great detail the research that is being done and which areas of influence they are in regard to. One of the more interesting items I noted was that there appears to be a link between this and autism. Which would make sense in that autistic people have trouble with social abilities and dealing with others. Makes for an interesting read, located HERE.
i'm late into reading this post, but i'm glad i did. i'm guilty of not able to love myself for so long as i been told how *unpretty* i am. growing up, looking in the mirror brings me pain. even as an adult, i combat with my feeling of insecurity seeking approval indirectly, until i've learn to accept myself.

i may not be pretty, but i know i'm beautiful as a person. for that i celebrate.

" I may not be pretty."

I was sorry to read this part of your comment, for several reasons. The first is because I have seen what you look like and you are not only physically pretty, you are physically beautiful. You have lovely skin, hair, lips and eyes. So, first off, whoever told you you weren't pretty growing up completely LIED. Probably did so because they were either jealous of your beauty, or, if they were old fashioned, afraid that your knowing that you were beautiful would get you in some kind of 'female' trouble.

Whatever the case, it is a LIE. And I know that anyone who can see will agree with me.

The second thing is this- on the idea of pretty- today, in this day and age, pretty comes in so many forms. Not too long ago, women who looked liked Jennifer Lopez, say, would not have been considered pretty. Pretty women, models in particular, were all generically blonde, blue-eyed, tall, thin-lipped and thin-hipped. The first supermodel to change that was a woman named Janice Dickens in the 1980's. (google her) She had thick lips and very dark, exotic looks. Everyone not only told her she was UGLY, but they also said she could never become a supermodel. She laughed. Sure, enough, she was soon posing beside a very famous supermodel, the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Cheryl Tiegs. Dickens looked GORGEOUS next to Tiegs and set the traditional modelling world on its ear.

I can list all the very courageous women who changed the idea of beauty in the United States, simply by BELIEVING they were beautiful. That's all it takes. Beauty is the courage to be confident in your feminity and sexuality, beauty is the way you walk, the way you talk to others, the charisma you emote, the clothes you wear (rather than them wearing you) the shine of your hair, the scent of your skin and the fact that your focus is never on yourself,wondering how you look, but on others. Beauty is making others feel beautiful, while secretly knowing you are dazzling, too.

Beauty was defined by the Italian men and women I grew up, lovers of art, who saw a beauty in every woman. She could be fat, but they would only see her gorgeous hair. She could be skinny, but they would notice only her gorgeous smile. There is something about you that is physically perfect - I don't care if it's your big toe. Find it and focus on it. Build your beauty on it. If you have lovely hands, wear rings to draw attention to them, if it's your eyes, enhance them, if it's your teeth, SMILE. Ooze confidence and soon you will have other people admiring your beauty, wishing they looked like YOU. In fact, someone already knows how beautiful you are and worries about it. That person is the one who first said you were ugly and made you believe it. I will bet on it.

I had no confidence in high school and I remember being envious of a girl who was medically overweight, because she oozed confidence. She believed she was beautiful and therefore was. She had every boy drooling over her. I wanted to be beautiful...like her. I did not realise I possessed my own, individual beauty.

I know this comment does not address 'inner beauty and therefore it is politically correct. So be it. You needed to hear it. The fact is you are ONLY as beautiful as you feel, no matter what you look like.

As for the other inner beauty you mention. Yes, you have it. I have NEVER and I mean that, seen photographs as incredibly beautiful as yours. They are unique and they display an ability to find beauty everywhere. I love them, I wish I could buy and hang every one of them around my home.

Why haven't you used your astonishingly artistic, photographer's eye and found beauty on yourself? Why would you still believe something said to you so long ago? If your eyes can see the beauty you created in those photos, why can't you see and create that beauty on yourself, as you do with those photos? If you can't, it is because it's a wicked, magic mirror you are looking at yourself in, a mirror that's been poisoned by the unhappy, cruel words, stuck in your mind. Get those words out of your head and your mirror will be clear again. Then you'll see yourself for what you are.

When I was young, I was told all kinds of terrible things about myself, not only about what I looked like, but about the kind of person I was, by people who were supposed to be the ones who loved me most. For a while, I believed them and it affected me. But as soon as I was away from them,my mind cleared and I could see the truth. And I can see the truth about you, too.
It's time you saw it too, my dear. You are physically beautful. It's as simple as that.

therefore it is politically correct

Sorry- I meant "politically incorrect."

It's one of the strange qualities of my brain is that I read through many articles and retain that information. When new stuff is added, it begins to coagulate and coalesce with exisiting data to formulate these kinds of ideas, which then bear further research

This ability you describe is called 'strategic thinking. It is a skill that is disappearing quickly as we teach our children to memorise data, rather than gather facts and ruminate on possibilities based on them. I want to read the articles you point me to before I comment on them here. But, right now I have to go eat dinner with my husband. I'll be back later. ; )

thank you Patricia from the bottom of my heart. you got me tearing and laughing at the same time. i had to read your reply several times to let it sink in my head. thank you for making me feel uplifted.

*the fact is you only beautiful as you feel, no matter what you looks like* - mantra to live by...

=:O)

Good. I'm glad and I hope the next beautiful photo that graces your blog will be a self-portrait of you. : )
I've finally had a chance to read the articles you posted. I think it's all interesting and I wouldn't dismiss it. But, like any other research of this kind, there are so many broad links and other variables that are not factored in. If we wanted to hash this article over cup of coffee, we could point and counterpoint it for hours. Still, I think you added a terrific unexpected element to this post by bringing these possibilities to the table. I know you've given me something to really think about, at least and it is very much appreciated. Thank you very much. : )

Dear Patricia - what an amazing post. One of my blog readers pointed me to it after I wrote a similar article. I have also shared it with my cousin who will get a huge kick out of this.. and I think some good healing too! She is the one you mention.

I love the way you wrote this. Funny, witty and oh so true! Great great great!

What other post did you write about it, Amberfire? I would love to read it - could you send me the link?

It's great to know you and you cuz got some good from this post, too. Thank you for telling me! : )

Thank you Amber. I'm going over to read it right now.....Wordpress has some very interesting posts, I've noticed...
Well, AF, I've just had the most wonderful experience reading your blog post, the comments on it and your profile. I'm sorry to say I don't agree with you regarding the writing - I found it was a very eloquent post and clearly heartfelt. Your cousin is lucky to have you. In fact, I plan to copy and paste your post to a friend I know who is cousin to another friend I know who is in this situation you adn I have both written about.Your support means a great deal to your cousin. I guarantee it. I was also happy to read we are neighbours of a sort - you live in northern California, too. It's beautiful here, isn;t it? But quite cold in the Bay Area for the last couple of days.... : )

Wow... I hope you visit my blog often.. I know I intend to read your posts. I only moved to the Bay Area a year ago from London. Im still adjusting and trying to meet people. I actually live between SF and Sac. Close to Napa. I love it here. Green rolling hills, very peaceful.

I really enjoy reading what strong articulate women have to say. Im looking forward to reading more of your posts. :)

Well, welcome! Unfortunately we're not that near, I live in Marin County. However, Napa is soo lovely. I know it's hard to adjust to a new country, no matter how beautiful. our new area might be. I lived in Greece for seven years before we moved here. My advice is to give it some time- it takes closer to two years to really feel at home.

I will keep visiting your blog,too. But any time you post something you like especially, please send me a note, so I don't accidentally miss it. I am a fulltime writer and I have trouble keeping up with everyone as I'd like. My VOX neighbours accomodate me by sending me posts and I try trolling around the 'hood at least once a week,to catch up if I can....

Marin is not far at all!

As for blog posts I am proud of.... I have to say that I have just finished one that I am very proud of. Here ya go! http://amberfireinus.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/pope-aims-to-heal-sex-abuse-wounds-on-us-trip/

Small world. I was born and raised in Marin. My parents live in Sleepy Hollow.
Even smaller world. That's my home. A perfect place for a writer to live, no? I wonder if we know each other.....Send me a private message if you like....
I sincerely hope you post this on your VOX blog, so I can comment on it! Brilliant!
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really good. I was often the black sheep in my family too.
Heh heh, Well, join the club! From the list of comments I've received on this post, it's seems like it's a club full of interesting and rather extraordinary people....
You can comment on my blog, just as I can comment on yours. I don't have a blog on Vox. Sorry. The good news is that I have added you to my blogroll so that my readers will read your blog too.
It is curious to me, that so many comments see a reflection of themselves - although great writing - it has a similar and/or same effect as going to see a pshyic or reading your "star sign" in the newspaper or magazine. Very general, but most people read into it what they want to read and or hear. Very interesting.
Thank you for that add, it's very kind of you. Do I not have to sign up to comment on your blog?
nope... I think it just requires your email address... thats it. You can put your blog address too so other people know how to look at your blog.

It is curious to me, that so many comments see a reflection of themselves

A very ithought-provoking comment. Thank you. I think people respond to it that way because so many people have experienced the feeling of isolation or emotional abuse from those who were supposed to love them most because they were "family." I guess if one hasn't been exposed to anyone who's experienced that, it probably seems very alien and peculiar. Sadly, though, too many people identify with it, because for them, it's too familiar. And, that is tragic, because all of the people who commented here, seem like genuinely kind, warmhearted people who deserved better. : (

Thanks. I'll get to it very soon. ; )
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Thank you, Patricia! as always - you are right on! I printed this off and put it on my mirror...I know what it is like to think/say this is the day - the last day I can do this...and then it is not. Thank you again for putting into words what so many of us feel...sometimes it helps coming from someone else! *hugz* catching up on your blog now - I missed it!!!!!!! hope you are well!
Goodness! How have you been? I have been checking on you periodically and was a bit concerned I must admit...So glad you're back..

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