Emancipate Prince Charming

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I was just commenting earlier how Happily Ever After is so overrated. Every day should be an enjoyment. Knowing that there is a happily ever after takes all the spice and spontanaiety out of life.

A second thing, men do indeed try and fix things. If you want help fixing a problem, discuss it with us. If you want empathy, discuss it with your best friend. Men have a hard time with empathy.

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leave you alone when you simply “don’t want to talk about it,” even when it’s killing her to know what “it” is?
This one thing by itself is enough to transform any woman into the most wonderful creature ever born.

John
Definitely that, and when you ask them what's wrong, they say nothing, but it's really something. I'd like for them to say it's nothing and that's exactly what it means... <sigh>
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Hi there!
You know, it was really funny when I read part of this post on the neighborhood page. It stopped at "Because men cannot win on Valentine's Day" and then I scrolled down and saw "Enjoy your Valentine's Day." I knew there had to be more, but just how it stopped and started like that. Haha!
I think today's Jump Start has a lot to add to your post.
Anyway, you bring up a lot of good points. I happen to differ with you on the happy ending. I do think you can have a Happily Ever After. It all depends on how you define it. You know how sometimes you hear about those 80-90 year old couples that have been together for many years and can truthfully say that they have had a full, happy marriage? To me, that is a Happily Ever After. There might be some fights over the years and other bumps in the road, but to be truly happy, you have to be well rounded and be able to get through the tough times. Life is an adventure that doesn't stop til you do.
Also, I hate the overcommercialization of Valentine's Day. Ok, of too many holidays in general are too commercialized. It kills some of the of the joy. I'm glad you still like the holidays =) Can't wait for your next post!
I used to hate Valentine's Day. And then I married Ken. Problem solved! 8:-)
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I've always hated Valentines Day. It's not as much to do with the fact that I'm single as it is to do with the repulsive commercialisation of something as simple and necessary and priceless as love.

However, I always get gooey in the knees when I see a couple sharing genuine love rather than showy, public affection. For such people, Valentine's Day is every single day, and to those people I always say "Happy Valentine's Day."
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I've always hated Valentines Day. It's not as much to do with the fact that I'm single as it is to do with the repulsive commercialisation of something as simple and necessary and priceless as love.

However, I always get gooey in the knees when I see a couple sharing genuine love rather than showy, public affection. For such people, Valentine's Day is every single day, and to those people I always say "Happy Valentine's Day."
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I've always hated Valentines Day. It's not as much to do with the fact that I'm single as it is to do with the repulsive commercialisation of something as simple and necessary and priceless as love.

However, I always get gooey in the knees when I see a couple sharing genuine love rather than showy, public affection. For such people, Valentine's Day is every single day, and to those people I always say "Happy Valentine's Day."
I've never been wildly into Valentine's Day and neither is the the other half. God love him he isn't the most romantic creature in the world although he did score an impressive 4 and a half on your list of romantic things he may do. We usually go for dinner or something and he buys lovely flowers but we always seem to get out-Valentined by someone with more money or more romance than us, which pisses me off. This year it's my cousin Liz who is being whisked off to CHester for a romantic weekend by her boyfriend. Humph. Mind you, it is their first one together, give them 7 years and maybe they'll be going for dinner instead....You're right about unrealistic expectations, growing up you imagine you'll find the perfect man who will shower you with romantic gifts and gestures all the time and be chivalrous and charming. Then you grow up and discover that there is no 'perfect' man, just an ordinary man with some great traits and some annoying habits who makes you laugh sometimes and makes you angry sometimes. Being a grown up is SO much more complicated than anyone gave out when I was small.
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I love Valentine's day too. I like to imagine Valentine's day is every day. People often forget that valentine's day is more than just expressing love for our immediate partner. My mom used to always go completely "Valentine's" on my sister and I even though she *always* showed us how much she loved us. Valentine's was her day to really shower us with affection (and confections) and in so doing she taught us that this day was for us to show our love for *all* others. For those who hate Valentine's day because it reminds of lost love, take some time to forget the loss and go give some love to someone... maybe even someone you don't know (think Hugs campaign). And hey, why make such an effort on only one day of the year? If we simply made an effort all the time the world would be a better place. When people finally get past the commercial aspect of the day itself they will find there are gifts that can be given that go far beyond the glittery red, heart shaped boxes of chocolates. We simply need to appreciate what each other's idea of expressing love is and recognise it. Actions and words show how much we care about those others in our lives-- not commodities-- but now I'm preaching to the choir!

Happy Valentines day Patricia, you are sweet as chocolate, and as sharp as a pin-striped suit. I love your take on the world. It always makes me happy to come and read what you have to say.

Lot's of love, Michelle.
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I love Valentine's day too. I like to imagine Valentine's day is every day. People often forget that valentine's day is more than just expressing love for our immediate partner. My mom used to always go completely "Valentine's" on my sister and I even though she *always* showed us how much she loved us. Valentine's was her day to really shower us with affection (and confections) and in so doing she taught us that this day was for us to show our love for *all* others. For those who hate Valentine's day because it reminds of lost love, take some time to forget the loss and go give some love to someone... maybe even someone you don't know (think Hugs campaign). And hey, why make such an effort on only one day of the year? If we simply made an effort all the time the world would be a better place. When people finally get past the commercial aspect of the day itself they will find there are gifts that can be given that go far beyond the glittery red, heart shaped boxes of chocolates. We simply need to appreciate what each other's idea of expressing love is and recognise it. Actions and words show how much we care about those others in our lives-- not commodities-- but now I'm preaching to the choir!

Happy Valentines day Patricia, you are sweet as chocolate, and as sharp as a pin-striped suit. I love your take on the world. It always makes me happy to come and read what you have to say.

Lot's of love, Michelle.
A long term romance has little if anything to do with Valentines Day. It isn't about hearts and flowers, chocolates, or indeed gifts of any kind. In the end, it is about tolerance, respect, and trying to preserve a spirit of fun. The reasons people like each other are often coincidental and malleable. Superficial beauty, romantic gestures, and contrived displays of affection simply cannot compare with simple heartfelt goodness.

I love Valentine's day, though, even so. It's a chance for folks to think "Yep. I've still got it!" As time passes, it can be hard to remember.

Superficial beauty, romantic gestures, and contrived displays of affection simply cannot compare with simple heartfelt goodness.

Very well said. If more people would figure that out the world would be a much happier place.
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I love the deconstruction of the fairy tales -- I played Prince Charming in a grade-school production (even got to kiss the prettiest -- sorry most beautiful -- girl in class) ---- its been all downhill from there... ;)
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it was those tales that taught me to shoot for something more than the relationship examples my family had to offer. I knew I did not want to settle.
When I was young I would mention to boys when they were flirting with me that I was not going to have sex until I was married. They never called me again. I knew what they were after, I wanted someone who wanted more from me. I am more. Then Mr. L came along, I never used the line about sex with him because he respected me right up front. I call him my prince charming, he loves me for me, he supports me and he feels supported by me. We see each other as equals in this marriage, in our love. For Valentines day we just make it a point to maybe go out on a date, or exchange cards. We do not make it a big deal, because really, our romance happens every morning when he gives me a big kiss despite what I taste in my own mouth, when he hugs me so close before he leaves for work, when I slip tiny love notes in his lunch, when I greet him at the door with a huge hug and kiss when he comes home at night.
With Mr. L every day is valentines day. ;-)

"men have a hard time with empathy."

It's not that men don't feel empathy, I think it's just not comfortable for them to express it.

LOL! In reference to giving men 'space'

Oh, I've been cured of this female affliction of saying "nothing" when I actually mean"something," because when I say "nothing is wrong," husband says, "Okay!"

So, you see, I've been well-conditioned... ; )

Thanks for commenting, K.

Exactly! I agree with your version of Happily Ever After, too! And thanks for referring me to the comic strip, Cap'n

John, I tried to reply to your comment, but VOX is malfunctioning again, which is getting old very fast. I'll try again:
I had the "white out" too. Dunno why - but I just came over here to read it proper like.

I read my fairy tales in their unbowdlerised, unexpurgated versions, where quite often the girl was better than the boy and it showed. Punishments were pretty extreme, too!

And Husband manages not a one of your list (I manged 1, so am not much better!). But we love each other, and know each other well; our history forms our jokes and our memories make up for a lot of faults. After 22 years of marriage, the pettiness seems not too matter too much!

We do not celebrate VDay - I hate chocolates, flowers become expensive, meals also increase in price and cards are just too schmaltzy for me.

Great post, Patricia.
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great post.

not gonna comment because I'm not in a relationship right now, and commenting in what the past was will probably upset me.

Apart from the fact that my soon-to-be 13 years old daughter (on thursday) is moaning and depressed because it's Valentine's Day,and she doesn't have a boyfriend... arrrrggHHrrgHHH
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great post.

not gonna comment because I'm not in a relationship right now, and commenting in what the past was will probably upset me.

Apart from the fact that my soon-to-be 13 years old daughter (on thursday) is moaning and depressed because it's Valentine's Day,and she doesn't have a boyfriend... arrrrggHHrrgHHH
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We don't celebrate Valentine's day as it is the other 364 days of the year that really prove that you love and cherish each other.
On this, and most other days, I am very grateful for a wife who realizes that neither one of us has a clue. After eighteen years, I don't think we're ever going to have one.
Thank you for commenting, Suga. I agree heartuily with commercialism overdrive,
Hi Patricia. This is a really great post. Fairy Tales really do mess with your mind when you're young, I have been married 28 years- I've found that each of us is responsible for our own happiness, contentment, peace of mind, and how we relate to others. You shouldn't expect to marry a man - if you presume he is going to fulfill all of your needs, wants, and desires-- it isn't fair.
I'm having trouble replying to comments on this post Queen, so I hoep this comes through. It sounds like you are living your own love story, and know what love is. Hope you had a great holiday yesterday!

"...Then you grow up and discover that there is no 'perfect' man, just an ordinary man with some great traits and some annoying habits who makes you laugh sometimes and makes you angry sometimes."

There's nothing truer than this.And it goes for women as well. But if he's got those great traits,them

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As long as you are happy for 18 years, why worry about being"clueless?"
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VOX periodically sucks ass.

But not a pretty ass. I'm talking hobo's urine-infected ass.

And after that happy note...very cool post...however....I like fairy tales. You just have to learn to read them right!!

Cinderella is really a story of REVENGE is a dish best SERVED COLD!

Snow White is about an ex-fetishist Porn-star that really CAN be happy with a slightly effeminate man-boy and have a "normal" family life

Little Red riding hood I think is a Russian fairy tale. It's got it all, the precocious "little" girl that likes getting eaten by "bad wolfmen", the twisted grandma who wanting to relieve a youth she sees as having slipped by thanks to red riding hood's "example", unfortunately dies of a stroke-mid-coitus and the big, bad-ass woodsman that gets rid of the "wolf-man" who likes to two-time little-red with her own (deceased) grandma....I mean you just KNOW that bad-ass "wood"-sman is gonna look after little red just right.

Beauty and the beast...a classic case of jail-bird pen-pals eventually getting axe-murderer Jim back on track thanks to some very fine pussy....

I tell you you just have to read them right!!

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I really enjoyed reading this, Patricia! I always had the problem to free myself from all these fairy tale-images of perfect, handsome women. Every little girl dreams of being a princess and being treated like that, but this is seldom the case in real life! As every young girl, I dreamed of Prince Charming, the personification of everything good in mankind, but I woke up with a heartache.
I had to learn that only a woman with a certain amount of self-confidence, only a woman who knows about her value by herself, should start looking for her individual Prince Charming, or, perhaps his smaller brother ...

When I posted my comment I received an error saying "an unexpected error had occurred-try again later." I tried twice, then realised that the comment had actually posted-- twice, one for each time I had attempted and failed. Perhaps other people received the same error upon posting comments to your site?

I've been having that trouble as well. Not with everyone's blog sites (at least not all the time), but definitely with this one on a steady basis. It's been happening so many times lately that I've learned to just open up a new window and look to see if my comment has posted before trying again. It's almost always there. Don't know what Vox's problem is, but I sure do wish they'd get it fixed!
And, yes, it happened again when I posted the above comment! 8:-)

It sounds like you are living your own love story, and know what love is. Hope you had a great holiday yesterday!

Yes, it took three tries, but I think I've finally got it right! We had a great Valentine's Day. Hope you did too. 8:-)
G- I'm having trouble replying more than two lines on this post, so I'll just say this---I would really LOVE to meet your girlfriend.
Hello again, I'm so glad you had a great holiday and I'm really sorry you're having trouble posting on my blog.
This is a very interesting comment, Snowwhite! "Prince Charming;'s younger brother"- I like that..Thanks for stopping by!
Hi Michelle- I appreciate you letting me know. I have a feeling I'm going to be switching over to another blogspot very soon. This is getting way too difficult.
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Thank you for this post - I love Valentine's Day in the sense that it's nice to have a special dedicated day to stop and smell the roses (not literally) with the one you love, but not as a day that needs to be spent on expensive dinners, jewelry or anything else that Hallmark or DeBeers tries to sell. It's easy to take the ones we love for granted and in that sense, it's nice to have a day where we put everything aside and just spend quality time together. I sort of want to go out on a limb here and make the assumption that people who need to fill Valentine's Day with cliches are the ones who are not satisfied with themselves or their relationships - but everyone is different and enjoys different holidays for different reasons.

My boyfriend had made arrangements to pick up flowers for our mothers and grandmothers and ordered a bouquet for me as well. Before visiting our parents, he said "Pick out the flowers you want". There was a sense of 'where did the romance go' but I picked out my flowers and we both sort of laughed at how lame that was, but I told him that wasn't the point and I wasn't disappointed. The whole day was spent with our families, we did laundry and played some video games. Later that night, I suffered a severe allegic reaction to something we're not sure of yet, and needed him to take me to the ER. Without hesitation, he jumped to his feet, gathered the things we needed and drove me to the hospital. So my Prince Charming didn't bring me flowers, but he was by my side when I needed him most and that quite possibly beats any jewelry, flowers, or candy he could have given me all day.

Most excellent post. I think we qualify for most of the stuff on your list... but as I said, I am the anti-romantic. We treat each other that way every day. I didn't actually get around to buying Tash her V-day gift until 3 days later. I got her Sunglasses that have switchable polarized lenses because she has bad night driving vision and she'd never get a pair of expensive glasses for herself. She figured it was too much money, but she likes wearing them so I figure it's a victory in my column.

Sorry for being so late commenting... your lack of tag-line on your blog means you're just one of the many nameless blogs on my feedreader. I'm glad I found it though.
as you may have guessed already, i've always had serious trouble with those idiotic fairy tales - excellent breakdown of exactly why, P:)

well, i think Steven and i might fit the bill:) - this Valentine's Day, we sponsored a dog (one of the Michael Vick dogs) from my favorite place, Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (of course, that could be because we simply both have been having our quota of chocolate-ness for the rest of our lives!) - thinking i'll make this an annual thing, even though we donate money to those guys on a regular basis anyways:)

on the "Yes, dear, I agree with you..." bit , when he's feeling a bit out of sorts - i am afraid i don't quite come up to snuff - heheh - which would be why Steven's nickname for me is Evil Twit (i've gotten it embroidered on a jacket and a ski hat - lol!) - but, neither one of us do this, so i think we're even:) - lol! - however, he's much squidgier of a romantic than i am - and, i give him full points for that (and being a fantastic cook) - i reciprocate by making sure his ego is intact at suprise moments, though - it's amazing how stupid smart people feel sometimes

As you can see from my response to Amorette, I'm having trouble with VOX :(

Valentine's Day is pretty rough on a guy who is not monogamous -- I had to spread it out over several days to make the rounds, emptying my wallet as I did so.
So I definitely didn't get that email saying you replied to my comment. Odd. Anyway, I'm glad you like my Happily Ever After =)
I took my current girlfriend to an exclusive weekend with a big resterant and a huge steam room big enough for 30 people plus there was a hot tub in our room. We had room service 3 times and we were barely dressed for 2 days. Then we went to the dining room to eat steak and lobster and finish it off with a steam. We both had a great time and I learned alot more about my date than I thought I would have. All in all it was worth every penny of it,this wekend has brought us closer than I ever dreamed it would, I only hope I have the strength not to do something ill regret. This woman is a dream come true but I have been through it before,major thought is going to have to take place. Craig
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